Turning over the Tout Apple Cart

When the Florida Marlins purged their roster this past off-season, a reason given was that their cache of stars was not winning them anything. One could argue that acquiring a few pieces could have been the quicker path to contention, but other teams have had success by tearing everything down and starting over. I am starting to understand.

I have written about my last place Tout Wars team in the Friday newsletter. It’s been a tough year in this 15-team mixed league. In retrospect, I made a few mistakes on draft day. I opened May nearly 30 points out of 14th place. Some family health issues have kept me too distracted over the past few months to employ my usual slow, methodical roster management process. Still, I’m gratified to see that my team has skyrocketed to where I am now jockeying between 14th and 15th each day.

Okay, “gratified” may be too strong a word.

But it’s June; I’ve had enough futzing around.

So I decided to put on my Derek Jeter cap and turn over the apple cart. This past Sunday, I sent the following message out to my esteemed competitors:

“Hello fellow Touts. I am in last place. I am not going to win. I am no threat to you. But I have a few really good players. I can finish in last place with the Vottos and Freemans and Carrascos, or without them. I have no particular affection for any of them. Not one sent me a birthday card this year. So look over my roster and make me an offer. Everyone is up for grabs, but the REALLY good guys will require a 2-for-1 or 3-for-1 deal. So yes, you can own Zack Greinke or Walker Buehler. You can gain some nice position flexibility with Yangervis Solarte. Or you can even go down the rabbit hole with Byron Buxton. I hate them all. Maybe one of them will send you a birthday card.

All reasonable offers considered. I’m not punting the season so don’t offer me a bunch of scrubs. I’m offering an “A” for some “Bs” or “Cs” to replace some of my “Ds” and “Fs”.

In the past, email blasts like this have generated maybe a handful of responses. So I was surprised when more than half the league contacted me within a few hours of the note. It was an interesting case study in how different competitors navigate the trade negotiation process.

Some owners made me an offer right up front. Those were considered first. Some were quite reasonable, and in fact, I clicked “ACCEPT” on one of them right away. Some were lowballs, which I put at the bottom of the pile. No need to work a deal with so many to choose from.

A few of the owners attempted to go through the normal “put the onus on the other guy” negotiation process. I’d get a note that said, “I am interested in [Votto, Freeman, et al]; what would you want?” But with so many real offers on the table, I didn’t need to play that game. I told them that if they wanted my player, they’d have to make me an offer like the others were doing. That generated even more offers to review.

By the end of the day, 16 players changed their address.

PT BATTING PITCHING
ACQUIRED:
C.J. Cron F p,a
Lance McCullers F e,k
TRADED:
Khris Davis F P+
Cut Bret Phillips -AV
ACQUIRED:
Joc Pederson M
Patrick Corbin F E+,KK
Luis Valbuena M p|-AV
TRADED:
Joey Votto F p,AV
Zack Godley M k
Carlos Gomez F SB|-AV
ACQUIRED:
Nelson Cruz F PW
Austin Meadows PW,S+,A+
Jake Junis F e
TRADED:
Freddie Freeman F PW,A+
Cut Ben Zobrist M AV
Cut Adam Engel M S+|-AV

The impact:

BEFORE AFTER
CA S.Perez S.Perez
CA Zunino Zunino
1B Votto Cron
3B Freeman Solarte
CI McMahon Valbuena
2B Solarte McMahon
SS B.Crawford B.Crawford
MI T.Anderson T.Anderson
OF K.Davis J.Pederson
OF Zobrist A.Meadows
OF F.Reyes F.Reyes
OF Renfroe Renfroe
OF Grichuk Grichuk
UT Engel N.Cruz
P Carrasco Carrasco
P Greinke Greinke
P Flaherty Flaherty
P Buehler Buehler
P Matz Matz
P Godley Corbin
P Madson McCullers
P Giles Giles
P Rodney Rodney
DL Buxton Buxton
DL DeJong DeJong
DL Triggs Triggs
R B.Phillips Junis
R C.Gomez Madson
R J.Hughes J.Hughes
R Granderson Granderson
R Peacock Peacock
R Kopech Kopech

The net result… I gave up a bit of offense for a bunch of pitching. Even with the offensive downgrade, I was able to cut three bats that were dead spots and replace them with some more useful players. Luis Valbuena and Ryan McMahon are likely placeholders; Paul DeJong will be back eventually, and with all this pitching I’m probably not done dealing yet.

Were these perfect trades? Nah. I think that including Zack Godley in the Votto deal shifted the advantage to my opponent, but I could afford to let him go with all the arms I acquired. Joc Pederson and Austin Meadows are wild cards; if they keep their playing time, it could go a long way towards making up the offensive deficiencies from the loss of Votto, Freeman and Davis.

In the end, I took a Stars & Scrubs team – which is the appropriate way to play a mixed league – and turned it into a Spread the Risk roster. I’m still not going to win, but I think I can make the season far more fun.

What do you think?

8 Comments

  1. Brad Crenshaw on June 12, 2018 at 8:44 am

    Well, my immediate reaction is one of empathy. Waiting for Joey Votto to heat up is like watching paint dry.



  2. Matt on June 12, 2018 at 9:29 am

    First, hoping the family health issues work out as best as possible.

    Next, I enjoyed the comment about “including Zack Godley in the Votto deal shifted the advantage to my opponent.” Many have the philosophy that they must “win” a trade to deal, regardless how it impacts their team. Those situations are extremely frustrating to deal with.



  3. tallboy on June 12, 2018 at 9:15 pm

    I have finally realized why my team is performing so badly….with the likes of Michael Conforto, Amed Rosario, Yoenis Cespedes, and Jeurys Familia all of whom I drafted. I’m starting to believe BAB’s has a love affair with the Metropolitan’s.
    Could this be true?



  4. Richard Burke on June 12, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    My sympathies on your new 1B/2B/3B/CI, Ron. I haven’t seen an infield that bad since Disco Demolition Night in Comiskey.



  5. Chris Wilson on June 13, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    Could you expand on a bit on why Stars & Scrubs is the best approach to mixed leagues (or if you already have, please point me there)?



  6. shandler on June 13, 2018 at 5:49 pm

    The talent pool is so deep in a mixed league that the end-game players – and even undrafted players – still hold great value. So you can feel confident in paying what it takes to get the very best players because the “chaff” you’ll end up at the end of the draft will still be pretty darn good.



  7. Lee Bowles on June 13, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    I can appreciate your strategy and willingness to blow it up in last place, but did you consider just working the waiver wire with some of the young call ups? I know that BABs focuses on the track record and exhibited skills, but there are some nice young players this season who could contribute. I have tried to wait on McMahon in several leagues but I needed the bench space for pitching depth.



  8. shandler on June 14, 2018 at 8:00 am

    McMahon has been my Brokeback Mountain all season – a player I just can’t quit. I’ve been working the waiver wire for two months, but this team was so deep in the hole that incremental moves were just not enough. My moves may seem drastic on the surface. A lot of that is because there is a certain inflated value attached to the names Votto/Freeman/Davis. The replacement quartet of Cron/Pederson/Meadows/Cruz is a lot less sexy but a bunch of ground will also be gained by acquisitions Corbin/McCullers and maybe even Junis. That’s 6-7 roster spots covered by giving up Votto/Freeman/Davis. We’ll see.